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Was Daniel written after the events it predicts?

In short

Most critical scholars date Daniel’s final form to about 165 BC, during the persecution under Antiochus IV, because its predictions are exact up to then and less clear afterwards. Many Christians hold the traditional sixth-century date, pointing to God’s ability to foretell the future and to details that fit Babylon. Informed, faithful Christians hold both views, and the evidence is debated rather than settled.

The Objection

Daniel 11 reads like history: Persian kings, Alexander, then a blow-by-blow account of the Ptolemies and Seleucids, sharpest around Antiochus IV’s defiling of the temple in 167 BC. Then it gets his death wrong. The natural explanation is that the author wrote just before 164 BC and placed his message in the mouth of an exiled hero, as other Jewish apocalypses did. The Aramaic, the Greek words and some historical slips point the same way.

Put as its strongest advocates would put it.

The Christian Case

  1. Historical evidence

    Many scholars date the book’s final form to about 167–164 BC. Daniel 11 traces the wars of the Ptolemies and Seleucids closely up to Antiochus IV’s desecration of the temple. Verses 40–45 then describe his end in ways that do not match ancient accounts of his death in Persia in 164 BC. Many conclude that the writer lived just before then.

  2. Historical evidence

    Some nineteenth-century critics doubted that Belshazzar existed. Cuneiform texts, including a cylinder of Nabonidus, name him as Nabonidus’s eldest son, and other texts show he ruled in Babylon while his father was away. That fits the offer to make Daniel “third ruler”. Daniel calls him Nebuchadnezzar’s son, though; “father” can mean ancestor or predecessor, but this is debated.

  3. Historical evidence

    Daniel 2:4–7:28 is in Aramaic, and the book uses Persian words and Greek names for some instruments. Scholars disagree about how far this points to a late date. Eight manuscripts of Daniel were found at Qumran, the earliest from the late second century BC. This shows the book was copied and valued soon after the date critics propose.

  4. Scripture

    Daniel presents its visions as given to Daniel during the exile. Jesus speaks of “the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet”. Christians who hold the traditional date take this at face value. Others reply that Jesus was naming the book in the usual way. Either way, this is held by faith, not as a proof.

  5. Philosophical argument

    If God exists and knows the future, detailed prediction is possible, so a late date should not be assumed just because the prophecy is precise. Equally, a writer using an accepted form, setting a later message in an ancient figure’s mouth, need not be a fraud. The real question is which reading best explains all the evidence.

  6. Christians differ

    Many Christians, such as Joyce Baldwin, hold a sixth-century date and read the four kingdoms and the seventy weeks as reaching to Rome and to Christ. Others, such as John Goldingay, accept a second-century date and read Daniel as inspired encouragement for persecuted Jews, still pointing to God’s coming kingdom. Some think the stories are older and the visions were added later.

Where the Evidence Is Weaker

For the traditional date, “Darius the Mede” has not been identified outside the Bible, and the Greek words and Daniel 11:40–45 remain hard to explain. For the late date, some arguments rest on silence, such as Ben Sira (about 180 BC) not naming Daniel. Claimed historical errors in the stories have sometimes been overturned, as with Belshazzar.

Arguments to Avoid

  • Claiming the Dead Sea Scrolls prove a sixth-century date, when the earliest copies come from a few decades after the date critics propose.
  • Saying late-date scholars hold their view only because they rule out miracles, when their arguments are also linguistic and historical, and some are believing Christians.
  • Calling the late-date view an accusation of forgery without explaining that writing apocalypses under an ancient hero’s name was a recognised form.
  • Relying on Josephus’s story that Alexander the Great was shown Daniel’s book, which most historians regard as legend.

Read for Yourself

Daniel 5:1–31

1Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand. 2Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem; that the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink therein. 3Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them. 4They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone. 5In the same hour came forth fingers of a man’s hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king’s palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. 6Then the king’s countenance was changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and his knees smote one against another. 7The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spake, and said to the wise men of Babylon, Whosoever shall read this writing, and shew me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck, and shall be the third ruler in the kingdom. 8Then came in all the king’s wise men: but they could not read the writing, nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof. 9Then was king Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in him, and his lords were astonied. 10Now the queen, by reason of the words of the king and his lords, came into the banquet house: and the queen spake and said, O king, live for ever: let not thy thoughts trouble thee, nor let thy countenance be changed: 11There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers; 12Forasmuch as an excellent spirit, and knowledge, and understanding, interpreting of dreams, and shewing of hard sentences, and dissolving of doubts, were found in the same Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar: now let Daniel be called, and he will shew the interpretation. 13Then was Daniel brought in before the king. And the king spake and said unto Daniel, Art thou that Daniel, which art of the children of the captivity of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of Jewry? 14I have even heard of thee, that the spirit of the gods is in thee, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee. 15And now the wise men, the astrologers, have been brought in before me, that they should read this writing, and make known unto me the interpretation thereof: but they could not shew the interpretation of the thing: 16And I have heard of thee, that thou canst make interpretations, and dissolve doubts: now if thou canst read the writing, and make known to me the interpretation thereof, thou shalt be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about thy neck, and shalt be the third ruler in the kingdom. 17Then Daniel answered and said before the king, Let thy gifts be to thyself, and give thy rewards to another; yet I will read the writing unto the king, and make known to him the interpretation. 18O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour: 19And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down. 20But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him: 21And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will. 22And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this; 23But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified: 24Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. 25And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 26This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. 27TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. 28PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. 29Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom. 30In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. 31And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.

Daniel 9:24–27

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 11:21–45

21And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. 22And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. 23And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. 24He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time. 25And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him. 26Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain. 27And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed. 28Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land. 29At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter. 30For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. 31And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. 32And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. 33And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. 40And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. 41He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. 42He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. 44But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Related Finds

Nabonidus Cylinder
Photo: Unknown author, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons
Inscription

Nabonidus Cylinder

c. 540 BC · Found: Ur, Iraq, 1854

British Museum, London

A building inscription of Nabonidus, last king of Babylon.

What it shows

He prays for his eldest son Belshazzar, once known only from Daniel; Belshazzar ruled in Babylon while his father was away, which fits Daniel being made “the third highest ruler” in Daniel 5.

What it doesn’t show

Daniel calls Nebuchadnezzar Belshazzar’s “father”, which most read as ancestor or predecessor.

Further Reading

  • Daniel: An Introduction and Commentary · Joyce G. Baldwin (1978)Defends the traditional date.
  • Daniel (Word Biblical Commentary) · John E. Goldingay (1989)A Christian scholar who accepts a later date.
  • Daniel (Hermeneia) · John J. Collins (1993)The standard critical commentary.

Drafted with Opened AI and awaiting review by Opened’s apologetics advisors. Labels show the kind of support each point has: Scripture is what the Bible says; historical evidence and philosophical arguments can be checked by anyone; “Christians differ” marks questions on which faithful Christians disagree.

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